how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
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how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
S-N-SS-N-S 1251384985|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

well
i have been toying with the idea of building myself a "live set-up"using plogue bidule and renoise,it should be used for my "breakcore/junglecore/drillcore"music

any1 tried building something for that purpose in plogue

the reason i want to use plogue over something like Pd,is that i really like to have the "nicer"interface,it helps me give a better overview

help me out Hardoff:)

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hardoffhardoff 1251400929|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

if you have more specific things you need help with, i can give some tips for sure.

but "how would you build a live set up?" is a little bit too big a field to tackle in one forum post.

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Re: how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
S-N-SS-N-S 1251402261|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

well what i want is a way to play longer samples,on different channels(maybe rewire renoise and plogue bidule)

and then make a way to trigger different samples on different channels with different effects

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Re: how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
subsonikasubsonika 1251416806|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

not at all what u have in mind but i love my rs7000!

http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/rs7000.php

theres one on ebay:
http://tiny.cc/EKcv9

its a lot of money though :(

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S-N-SS-N-S 1251453055|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

not looking for hardware,have sold most of the hardware i have owned,so looking for purely software solution

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Re: how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
subsonikasubsonika 1251456531|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

of course. its sexy tho isnt it. mmmmmm

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S-N-SS-N-S 1251469206|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

sure it is

now back to topic:)

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Re: how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
hardoffhardoff 1251509529|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

one advice that has really worked for me, and a lot of people:

  • keep it as simple as possible.

so, i think you really should choose one software, rather than 2 or 3. for a live setup, i really don't think you want to mess around with renoise AND bidule. just choose the software you think will do the job, and then use only that for live.

sorry to state the plainly obvious, but did you try ableton? i personally hate it, but it probably does exactly what u want.

if you use pd or bidule, you will need to spend a bit of time to make your own set up (probably a few hours a day for at least a month). The people on the pd forum can help you with specific questions, but you will have learn all the basics of pd and build your patch as much as you can first. there is probably similar support for bidule too.

also, one other thing: when i first started using pd, i made much smaller and simpler patches. just very simple sample players and loopers, etc.. it was nearly a full year until i built my first live patch. pd is a programming language, and like any language, it takes a while to learn and you need to start with the basics before moving on to the higher level stuff.

bidule is slightly easier than pd, maybe, because many of the modules are pre-built. but you still need a really good understanding of how sampling and sample playback works to make something with that. you need to build in a time base engine to sync everything. you need to organise for file loading. you need to assign switches to all your effects to bypass them if possible. etc etc . there are a lot of things to put together, and if you have never made simple patches before it will be very difficult.

if you're willing to invest the time and study into pd or bidule, and you have a good plan for what you want to do, then you will get very good results. but otherwise, maybe stick to something like ableton that offers a pre-built solution.

good luck.

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Re: how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
Thee CrumbThee Crumb 1251538096|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

You could try using something like Audiomulch - it might be easier to construst something that would suit your needs with that as it's a modular system rather than spending an age learning an entire programming language.

Re: how would you build a live set-up in plogue bidule?
S-N-SS-N-S 1251539842|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

hi
thanx for all your suggestions

i have ableton live lite 7,but i only use that in post production to fuck samples up.

i have a better understanding at bidule than Pd,so i think i will use that.

i have already started on some basic stuff in bidule,and got a fair bit of stuff working
so bidule is definetly the app i want to use.

i will mess some more with bidule,and see where it takes me:)

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